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The Illuminati did not become violent before the 17th century.” It never was violent, its actions were based on infiltration and subversion. “It was an association of scientists, physicists and astronomers concerned with the Church’s inaccurate teachings and they were dedicated to scientific truth. The Vatican didn’t like that, so the Church started to “hunt them down and kill them”. The Illuminati was not a group of scientists dedicated to the advancement of common knowledge. The movie falsely portrays the secret society as the necessary rational counterpart to Christianity’s requirement of blind faith and its hindering of scientific advancement. In this optic, the average viewer cannot disagree with Tom Hank’s description of the Illuminati and sees the order in a favorable way. The real aim of the Illuminati was the overthrow of traditional institutions in favor of a new world order. The objects of this powerful organization of the Bavarian Illuminati, were : 1. The destruction of Christianity and of all Monarchical Governments ; 2. The destruction of nations as such in favor of universal internationalism ; 3. The discouragement of patriotic and loyal effort branded as narrow minded prejudice, incompatible with the tenets of goodwill to all men and the cry of ” Universal Brotherhood ” ; 4. The abolition of family ties and of marriage by means of systematic corruption ; 5. The suppression of the rights of inheritance and property. -Lady Queenborough, Occult Theocracy The Bavarian Illuminati has dissolved some years after its creation. Researchers however say that the Illuminati has successfully integrated itself within modern Freemasonry. Illuminati thinkers believed that worldwide reach of Masonic lodges represented the ideal platform for the propagation of their ideals. To sum up, the Illuminati was not an association of bright scientists dedicated to the advancement of scientific truths. It was secret society who, through infiltration and subversion, aimed to overthrow traditional institutions in order serve the best interests a secret elite. It is true that the Illuminati was thoroughly anti-Church but this war wasn’t the main reason of its existence. Nowadays, the Illuminati is considered to be a hidden order which recruits within Freemasonry potent candidates for the continuation of its agenda. I accept certain aspects of what you present, as the Scriptures made it clear approx. two thousand years ago that “the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one [Satan]“. (1 John 5:19, New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, brackets and their contents mine) Much of what you have revealed further corroborates that fact. What concerns me is your apparent defense of the Catholic Church. I do not at all condone the methods of the faux “Illuminati” as portrayed in Angels and Demons, but I feel that it is very clear that the Catholic Church “is not holy, [but] is a deeply flawed and human institution” with “an aversion to science”. If you say that the Illuminati is evil for deceiving people into practicing idolatry, how could you rightfully defend the Catholic Church, even in juxtaposition with the Illuminati? The Church has promoted unscriptural and very un-Christian beliefs and has made them nigh ubiquitous in what is falsely called Christianity. The creation of a clergy distinction with inappropriately honorific titles such as “Father” and “Holy Father” is in direct opposition to the words of Jesus Christ himself and other scriptural principles. (Matthew 23:9; Job 32:21) The worship of Mary and “saints” is a blatant form of idolatry, as God himself said: “I am Jehovah, and there is no one else. With the exception of me there is no God” as well as “to no one else shall I give my own glory.”(Isaiah 45:5; 42:8) According to the New Catholic Dictionary, the pope can “sometimes counteract the divine law”. Is this in accord with the principles of Christianity as described in the scriptures? 1 Corinthians 4:6 says, in part: “Do not go beyond the things that are written”, in reference to the scriptures. Let’s not even mention how the papacy ignores the very fundamental Christian principles of humility and viewing others as greater than one’s self. The Catholic Church is and has been as much a political entity as it is religious one, involving itself integrally with worldly governments. However, listen to what Jesus Christ said about his true followers: “I request you, not to take them out of the world, but to watch over them because of the wicked one. They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.” (John 17:15, 16) The Catholic Church, in great contrast to what Jesus did and said, has heavily involved itself in “the world”, including political institutions, even promoting wars against countries who share the same faith! Where’s the love, the identifying mark of true Christians? Tellingly absent. I could go so much further, but the point is evident even now: if you condone Catholicism as an innocuous, valid form of honest worship, then all the immaculate logic and moral indignation you use to expose and rightfully villanize the Illuminati is, although helpful, hypocritical. When you say that you don’t care what anyone’s personal beliefs are, you condone a great deal of the subversive, deceptive, and detrimental behavior prevalent in the world today and throughout history, and all of the principles you use to “expose” the Illuminati are really discredited. High Rated Comment 63